The only reason I am writing this post is because I disagree with theÂ sensationalistÂ nature of the reporting going on and I own a few .ly domains. Perhaps you read Engadget or Techcrunch’s scarebait reporting of Ben Metcalfe’s post getting his .ly domain yanked.
My 2 cents:
When you register a .ly domain the rules in the TOS explicitly make some things off limits:
Any .LY domain name may be registered, except domains containing obscene and indecent names/phrases, including words of a sexual nature; furthermore domain names may not contain words/phrases or abbreviations insulting religion or politics, or be related to gambling and lottery industry or be contrary to Libyan law or Islamic morality, the same applies to the site content.
I read this before IÂ registered the domain and agreed to it, as did everyone else that owns .ly domain must agree to it. It was reported that Ben’s vb.ly url shortener was openly promoting itself as “adult friendly” urlÂ shortener (the marketing on the site bragged about being ‘sex-positive’) or something similar. If that is true it seems like a clear TOS violation to me. Case closed.
Whether you disagree (and I do) with their interpretations of what may be decent and women’s status in society is irrelevant if you agree to their TOS when purchasing from them. Their sandbox, their toys, their rules.
My experiance with .ly
The first .ly I bought was pix.ly which I used as a personal project for a site I created that allowed users to vote on 2 flickr photos side by side. Â (twitter avatars battle at twit.pix.ly). Â The flickr photos were brought in with a search API, this being the internet it took exactly 5 minutes for someone to start searching for “porn, nude, breasts, etc”. Â A couple weeks later I got a very polite email from the .ly folks that:
- Complimenting me on the site and how they thought it was a novel idea and a great showcase of thier .ly domains
- They were sorry to have to remind me that adult subject matter is in violation of the TOS
- They requested I alter the app to prohibit the adult content
- If I cant alter it, they requested I use the domain for another purpose (within TOS)
- They would revoke the registration if I failed to comply
That is far from a case of big ol’ scary mideastÂ governmentÂ agencies stealing domains back from us yankees.
I elected to ditch the flickr idea and just do twitter avatars with the app at twit.pix.ly and I have not heard anything since.
I also of course own page.ly and sal.ly which I bought for my wife. In regards to sal.ly the domain registrarÂ libyanspider.com was also very helpful in settling a disagreement with a 3rd party that thought they had rights to the domain when they did not.Â MyÂ experienceÂ with libyanspider has always been great and their customer service has even exceeded that which I have gotten at some other registrars.
As far as page.ly.
- Of course we own pagely.com
- Of course we considered the possibleÂ repercussionsÂ of building an app on a domain we have less control over, so therefore have fully abstracted our service onto other .com domains we do control. .ly could be gone tomorrow and our service wouldn’t blink.
- Nothing we are doing is in violation of their TOS, so we are not overly concerned about it.
Finally it would be financial suicide for the .ly folks to overly enforce their TOS (like some of the Sharia law stuff). Â When $$ is involved on a international stage.. people tend to be more flexible on what isÂ permissible. But when a site like vb.ly open flaunts it’s violation.. what do you expect them to do?
The reporting around this smacks of the”Keep em Scared” tone that sadly seems prevalent when it involves anything with Islam or the Mideast.